Next, Adam Olszewski contributes a short piece on “Church’s Thesis as interpreted by Church”. Here Olszewski does at least pick up on the point that I noted that Murawski and Wolenski slurred over without comment. CT is nowadays usually taken to be a claim about the co-extensiveness of the two notions of effective computability and recursivess; but the Founding Fathers were wont to talk of the notions being identical, or of one notion being a definition of the other. Church in 1936 himself uses both identity talk and definition talk. But actually, it isn’t too likely that — at that early date — Church had a clearly worked out position in mind on the status of the correlation he was proposing between computability and recursivess, and I don’t think we can read too much into his choice of words here. The headline is that Church, at least originally, seemed to take the modest view of the correlation as having something like the status of a Carnapian explication, while Turing thought, more boldly, that it could be forced on us by an analysis of the very notion of a computation. This is familiar stuff, however, and Olszewski’s brief remarks don’t in any way change the familiar picture.